We start this week with Joseph’s story about the people who are reading real ChatGPT users’ prompts and conversations. He got a bunch of documents all about these contractors and saw real prompts himself. After the break, Sam tells us all about the Automattic CEO getting kicked out. Then coming back again. In the subscribers-only section, Emanuel tells us why a16z thinks enshittification is not real.

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• Inside ‘Project Lily’: The Humans Reading Your ChatGPT Chats⁠
• ⁠Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg Put on 'Leave of Absence'⁠
• ⁠Automattic’s Matt Mullenweg Claims He’s Back 'In Control'⁠
• ⁠Sources say Automattic’s board is out after failed attempt to oust CEO Matt Mullenweg⁠
• ⁠A16z Says You Actually Love Social Media, Enshittification Isn’t Real⁠

This week we’re joined by Jennie Rose Halprein, executive director of Library Futures, a non-profit that advocates for a fair digital future for libraries and the communities they serve. We have written a bunch of stories about libraries over the years, and I have talked to Jennie a few times for those stories. I always have really interesting conversations with her, but a lot of what we talk about never makes it into my articles. That’s why I wanted to share one of those conversations with you today. We of course touch upon censorship but also many other subjects, so I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. 

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